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	<title>Comments on: While you&#8217;re banning things. . .</title>
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		<title>By: wheat</title>
		<link>http://wheatblog.com/2008/11/while-youre-banning-things/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>wheat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good.  I knew they had plans to challenge these.  I&#039;m glad they included Arkansas in their suit.  Here&#039;s an AP piece on it:  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g7iadH82keTlCIw5xZg9NvT6SzvAD95D9IB00</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good.  I knew they had plans to challenge these.  I&#8217;m glad they included Arkansas in their suit.  Here&#8217;s an AP piece on it:  <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g7iadH82keTlCIw5xZg9NvT6SzvAD95D9IB00" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g7iadH82keTlCIw5xZg9NvT6SzvAD95D9IB00</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://wheatblog.com/2008/11/while-youre-banning-things/comment-page-1/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, the ACLU yesterday filed a lawsuit challenging this act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, the ACLU yesterday filed a lawsuit challenging this act.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://wheatblog.com/2008/11/while-youre-banning-things/comment-page-1/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony makes an important point in that small-government fan conservatives are exactly NOT that when it comes to many issues. I would only add that both liberals and conservatives LOVE to talk about freedom when it suits them, but neither stick to a consistent philosophy regarding mans&#039; right to govern his own life. I&#039;ve been asking both sides for may years a simple question I can&#039;t get a straight answer to - &quot;Am I too stupid or too immoral to run my own life without your interference via Big Brother? Which is it?&quot;

Though I&#039;m a Christian, I have a big problem with the attack on homosexuals a certain portion of believers (FoF types) think is so critical to our survival as a nation. WTF? Two guys doing whatever the heck their doing has nothing to do with the health of my marriage, and Christians get divorced at similar rates as everyone else. Shouldn&#039;t we be concerned with making our own marriages stronger rather than wasting time with this bs?

By the way, the consistent, freedom-protecting view of same-sex marriages is for government not to care and to back off. Marriage to the state is a legal agreement, nothing more. Backing off also means that Big Brother doesn&#039;t force privately held companies to recognize such a union and extend benefits if the ownership of that company objects. The sheer lack of good workers would probably convince most companies to not pass on a good employee regardless of their personal preferences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony makes an important point in that small-government fan conservatives are exactly NOT that when it comes to many issues. I would only add that both liberals and conservatives LOVE to talk about freedom when it suits them, but neither stick to a consistent philosophy regarding mans&#8217; right to govern his own life. I&#8217;ve been asking both sides for may years a simple question I can&#8217;t get a straight answer to &#8211; &#8220;Am I too stupid or too immoral to run my own life without your interference via Big Brother? Which is it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Though I&#8217;m a Christian, I have a big problem with the attack on homosexuals a certain portion of believers (FoF types) think is so critical to our survival as a nation. WTF? Two guys doing whatever the heck their doing has nothing to do with the health of my marriage, and Christians get divorced at similar rates as everyone else. Shouldn&#8217;t we be concerned with making our own marriages stronger rather than wasting time with this bs?</p>
<p>By the way, the consistent, freedom-protecting view of same-sex marriages is for government not to care and to back off. Marriage to the state is a legal agreement, nothing more. Backing off also means that Big Brother doesn&#8217;t force privately held companies to recognize such a union and extend benefits if the ownership of that company objects. The sheer lack of good workers would probably convince most companies to not pass on a good employee regardless of their personal preferences.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Porter</title>
		<link>http://wheatblog.com/2008/11/while-youre-banning-things/comment-page-1/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheat, as a former foster child I find this kind of legislative agenda extremely troubling. As I now reside in Colorado Springs, I&#039;ve seen first hand the biogtry perpetrated by Focus on the Family in the name of the promotion of traditional values. Sadly, FoF spends millions of dollars defending the &quot;institution of marriage&quot;, when in reality such an institution doesn&#039;t exist. Marriage is a contract between two individuals, and as such has no place being sanctioned by any government institution. Even the concept of marriage licenses is in fact and intrusion on the privacy and civil right of Americans. Remove the government from the concept of marriage entirely, and not only would such legislative measures as Act I become moot, they would be entirely unlawful at their premise. 

I find it ironic that conservatives, while espousing the tenets of small government and individual freedoms, can&#039;t bare to keep themselves from intruding into peoples lives when it comes to issues of sexual preference and procreation. There&#039;s a popular bumper sticker in this city, it says simply &quot;Focus on Your Own Damn Family.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheat, as a former foster child I find this kind of legislative agenda extremely troubling. As I now reside in Colorado Springs, I&#8217;ve seen first hand the biogtry perpetrated by Focus on the Family in the name of the promotion of traditional values. Sadly, FoF spends millions of dollars defending the &#8220;institution of marriage&#8221;, when in reality such an institution doesn&#8217;t exist. Marriage is a contract between two individuals, and as such has no place being sanctioned by any government institution. Even the concept of marriage licenses is in fact and intrusion on the privacy and civil right of Americans. Remove the government from the concept of marriage entirely, and not only would such legislative measures as Act I become moot, they would be entirely unlawful at their premise. </p>
<p>I find it ironic that conservatives, while espousing the tenets of small government and individual freedoms, can&#8217;t bare to keep themselves from intruding into peoples lives when it comes to issues of sexual preference and procreation. There&#8217;s a popular bumper sticker in this city, it says simply &#8220;Focus on Your Own Damn Family.&#8221;</p>
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